Members Removed for Marking Messages as spam

[work in progress]

There is one particular circumstance in which members might find themselves automatically removed from the membership of a Group. This note has been compiled in the hope of providing some clarification because as things stand it can be hard for any individual to work out what has happened.

FAQ

Why was I removed from my group?

Possibly because you, or your email service, designated a message from the group as "spam", and then your email service reported that fact to Groups.io, with the expectation that Groups.io will stop sending group messages to you. See also the Mechanism section, below.

It is also possible that the administrators (moderators and owners) of the group removed you. In that case you may or may not have been notified of the reason, depending on that group's practices.

How do I get back into my group?

Groups.io sent you a notification when it removed you. That notice has a link to automatically restore your group membership. Look in your Spam folder or Trash for that notice, the link expires three days after it was sent. See also the Notification section, below.

If you were removed by the group administrators you will have to re-join the group; if they allow you to do that.

How can I stop this from happening again?

Don't mark group messages as spam, and routinely check your Spam folder for any group messages that may have been misdirected there. If you find any there promptly mark them as "not Spam". Do not delete them from the Spam folder, or allow them to be automatically deleted from there.

Also, if your email provider supports it, consider creating a filter that ensures that messages received from your Groups.io group(s) are never directed to your spam folder.

Why does this happen on Groups.io, but not on Yahoo Groups or other email lists?

Because Groups.io is not too big to block. [beta #16418] That is, email services may give the larger list providers some leeway because blocking messages from them would upset too many of the email service's users. Groups.io's participation in the FBL mechanisms offered by various email services is seen as a way of helping to establish a positive reputation for Groups.io with those email services, and thereby help ensure that every Groups.io subscriber receives group messages reliably and in a timely fashion.

What is the position of Groups.io management on why this is being done?

There are statements about why this is being handled this way in [beta #10753] and [beta #11900].

Mechanism

Some Mailbox Providers (MPs), aka Email Services, will send a report back to the sending email service when a received message is determined to be “spam”. This is called a feedback loop (FBL) and is intended as an anti-spam mechanism[1]. Not all MPs implement this mechanism. Among those that do there are ambiguities as to how some of them make that determination, and what those MPs expect the sending service to do as a result of receiving such a report. These ambiguities have resulted in confusion and inconvenience for Groups.io members and group administrators (group moderators and owners).

In the expected case the determination originates with the MP's user (the group member, for our purposes), most likely by clicking a button to designate the message as "spam". MPs generally interpret that designation as an instruction not to deliver any more messages "like" that one to the user. MPs that implement a FBL then send an abuse report to Groups.io. In that case removing the member from the group is justified on the basis that the member no longer wishes to receive the group's content.

In the troublesome case the determination was made automatically by the MP's discriminator ("spam filter") and the message delivered to the member's "Spam" or "Junk" folder instead of to his/her Inbox. If the member does not discover the message there and designate it as "not spam" before the message is automatically purged from the Spam folder, then the MP may generate an abuse report just as if the member had specifically designated the message as Spam.

The difficulty for Groups.io is that it is not told by he MP whether the abuse report was generated for the troublesome reason rather than for the expected reason. The difficulty for the group member is that if his/her MP implements the troublesome case the mechanism can operate entirely without his/her knowledge, up until the point where the member is removed from the group.

in either case, Groups.io attempts to minimize the inconvenience to the group member by sending a notice to him/her. The notice contains a link to automatically restore the member's subscription to the group.

Notification

As things are at the time of writing (18th March 2018) the resulting emails sent by Groups.io to (a) the member, and (b) the Group Owner & Moderators are not entirely clear about what has happened and why, mainly because it is not made clear that it can be the email service provider that has marked the email as spam. The ESP then feeds this back to Groups.io, and in turn Groups.io is more or less compelled to react to this by cancelling the individual’s membership of a Group. Not all ESPs send “marked as spam” information back to the message’s originator.

The member is confronted by an email that rather suggests that they are responsible for what has happened, and if they wish to restore their membership to click a link provided for the purpose, but given that the member has no knowledge of the message email that has been marked as spam and thus diverted to the ESP’s spam box some reluctance to use that link is understandable. Similarly the Group Owner / Moderators are simply informed that the member has marked the message as spam, and as a result can be equally bewildered about what has really happened.

 

Notice to member (as at 18 March 2018)


From: groupname+owner@groups.io

To: (Whom it may concern)
Subject:
You have been removed from ...


Hello,
 
Because your email service reported to us that you have marked one or more messages from wireless-set-no19@groups.io as spam, you have been automatically removed from the group. You will receive no more emails from that group. If this was a mistake, you can resume your subscription within the next 3 days by clicking the following link: Resume Subscription
 
Groups.io groups offer several options for controlling how much and what types of emails to receive. See this Help Center article for more information. If this happens repeatedly please check with your email service to learn about how they decide to send feedback reports to list services (such as Groups.io groups).
 
Cheers,
The Groups.io Team
 

 

Notice to Owner & Moderators (as at 18 March 2018)


From: <Group Name>@groups.io Notification [noreply@groups.io]

To: <Recipient's email address>

 

Hello,

This is to notify you that xxxxx@yyyyy.zzz has been unsubscribed from your group <Group Name>@groups.io because they marked a message as spam.

To turn off this notification, log into https://groups.io and edit your subscription.

Thank you for choosing Groups.io groups.

Cheers,

The Groups.io Team

 


Remediation

A suggestion has been submitted via the beta Groups site to the effect that the wording of the emails sent to the individual member and the Group Owner / Moderators be changed to make what has taken place more easily understood.


Notes:

  1. Wikipedia: Feedback loop (email)

 

The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center.